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Law School Job Services

Today our law school had representatives from the different types of jobs in the legal sector share insight on their respective fields.  The contact ratio was awesome at 1:1.  I spoke with a solo practicioner, corporate lawyer, small firm lawyer, federal government attorney, and local district attorney.

I’m not directly interested in all of those jobs, but I did want to here what different people are saying within the industry and get a pulse for the legal market.

I went to the solo practitioner first.  No surprise here.  I want to start my own practice/firm.  I discovered one particularly valuable gem that I did not know.  The attorney recommended I share a law office with other lawyers to get clients.  He said this was the source of most of his work.  I was planning on a smaller office for less cost, but that his idea has been noted.  I tried to ask him as many practical questions as I could and he shared some of his experiences, but after 5 or so minutes I think he was ready to be done.  Another positive from this question and answer session was he reaffirmed a lot of my initial thoughts on going solo.

I next went to the small firm representative just to get acquainted on what was going on and indirectly ask for a blueprint on starting my own.  She indicated she worked about 60-70 hours a week for decent but not great pay.  She wasn’t a partner and had no desire to be one or go anywhere else.  The firm only concentrated on family law.  She seemed genuinely satisfied with it and that’s great for her, but not for me.  I thanked her and headed to the corporate law table.

The corporate world has sounded appealing to me, but after hearing the advice on getting into the exclusive world of corporate law I started removing any interest in that realm.  The corporate attorney advised I work 4 or 5 years in a non-legal setting for what niche I want to go into and then apply to a corporate position.  My life isn’t that long.  I’m not going into 4 or 5 years of anything.  What if I decide I don’t like the legal aspect of the niche once I get into a corporate setting?  Good insight on the difficulty of entering corporate law and undoubtedly sound in the advice of becoming involved in the technical aspect of subjects, but 5 years is a long time and I’m way too diverse in my interests to concentrate on any one thing that long.  I need to be all over the place.  I take into account she was just providing one opinion, but it would have taken a lot of incentives just for me to seriously consider corporate law anyways.

I had noticed the federal law table ever since I stepped into the “fair” or whatever it was called.  The lawyer at the table only had one person stop by for the 30 minutes I had skipped tables.  Its always good to visit the underappreciated tables because their is a good chance they’ll be eager to talk with you.  In this case, that wasn’t the case.  The attorney from a subdivision within a government office wasn’t particularly enthused to be there.  I asked him if I could speak with him for a few minutes and he replied with a meager answer of yeah I guess so or something to that tune.  The “fair” was about to close in 10 minutes so its safe to say he was ready to end his 2 hours of being on display.  However, once I started talking with him he started sharing some light into the governmental legal world.  The most interesting highlight was that there was currently a job freeze.  He also noted that not all government jobs are listed on their job site so keep that in mind if you’re looking.  You may have to dig deeper to find different areas of legal spots.

Finally, I went to the district attorney table.  As you might expect, the average age here was much less than the rest of the room.  The “fair” was closed but I hung around to look at the pamphlet-type information and see if any of them came back.  Sure enough one DA did and was very friendly/helpful.  He was also very close to my age (just by looks) so that helped with a more candid conversation.  He also said there was currently a job freeze, but that it could be lifted at any time.  Very interesting @ the 2 jobs freezes.  However, he suggested I contact the office if I was interested in an internship and seemingly left the possibility of getting one at very high.

Grades Finally to be Released

Initially it was January 2nd.  Then January second became January 5th.  Now that day has arrived and I am very anxious to see my grades.  At the same time, I feel the school has let down the students.  We work very hard for our grades so understandably we want to see the results of our studying.  To delay the possible release of the grades until January 5th is over the top.

Understand that if a professor hasn’t turned the grades in yet, I am aware they can not post them.  If a professor lazily submits grades in February, that’s another critique.  In this case, I know two of my four professors were ready to turn in grades two weeks ago, if not sooner.  I would really like to see those grades if at all possible, but I can’t because of some bureaucratic reason or another.   [Edit: The following sentence is an update.] Our associate dean has sent out two emails telling students not to email or call about grades and reminded us the school was closed for the holidays as if the only thing stopping them was those coldhearts from the University.  I can just imagine the dean and staff right now, sledgehammers in hand, trying to bust through the locks so they could get the grades in.  The only thing stopping them would be an army of security and campus police force strictly enforcing that nobody touch campus property until the school calendar said so.

What it all comes down to for me is this: We pay $798 per hour.  There are roughly 1,000 students attending law school averaging somewhere around 13 hours.  That adds to $10,374,000 per semester.  So $10,000,000 per semester and they can’t get our grades in ASAP?  It’s ridiculous if you think about it.  I’m not asking for anyone to work Christmas Eve or Christmas, but I would expect the administrative staff to be able to imput the grades within a week of receiving them.  After all, law school is education but it’s still a business.  From my understanding, the teachers hadn’t even been given scoring sheets to turn in by January (got an email from a professor).  Thus, the expected date moved back.  What probably happened was they saw the 2nd fell on a Friday and decided to get in one last weekend.

I’ll probably talk to some of the student organizations and see if we can do anything about this for next Christmas break.  I think the grades were up to the professors in the Spring.

Finding a Job During the Holidays

I’m hopeful I can find a legal job during the break to earn extra money and gain experience.  If you’re looking as well, my recommendation is not to limit yourself to online searches.  My feeling is too many students rely on the Internet and only the Internet.  I suggest reading the newspaper (even though it may be online – it’s easier to scan through) and actually calling law firms or practitioners and inquiring about openings.  You know, you could even email them if you’re adverse to calling.  Email doesn’t give you the same connection as voice to voice communication, but it is a connection nonetheless.

If you talk to lawyers, you’ll find they’re generally a nice group and can definitely empathize with the process.  They may not have a place for you, but the worse that can happen is they tell you no.

I will send in applications from the school job bank, but I’ll also be seeking employment this way.  Of course, I’ll let you in on this progress.